Mark Day: Is there such a thing as dynamic LDAP?
Bob Morgan: Haven't heard that particular term.

{Ed: Some wondering and fishing around what dynamic LDAP could be by speaker and audience. Michael Mealling stated that a small group of people use LDAP for real time systems - that might be it! Lots of guessing but no reliable results.}

Rohit Khare: What about LDAP and XML?
Bob Morgan: There is an effort called DSML (Directory Service Mark-up Language) - It's LDAP in XML. They have a Web site, DSML.org. If there is an application that is inclined to be XML oriented, the directory service can be used to access that application.

{Ed: Some joking around in audience.}

Carl Ellison: The bigger the directory, the harder to find somebody … {missed some discussion} … categories. Can you see directories being used both ways? Do you disagree with my assumptions [the assumptions of my talk]? None of your examples explain my "Boss" example.

Bob Morgan: If there is anything to distinguish between them, it's fine.

Carl Ellison: Now about access permissions?
Bob Morgan: Your boss does have access.

{Ed: Some discussions about access/permission problems.}

{Ed: Notes on the following discussion don't distinguish the speakers well.}

Carl Ellision: Are big directories doomed to fail? how exactly are the directories to be used ?
A: I envision use of directories in an organization .. give me some people in the purchasing agents in a particular dept in an org.
Q: How about give me the email address of John Wilson (if there are many of them in an organization)
A: Maybe a decent directory page will be able to have enough info about the person to uniquely identify him…
Q: So you need RICH enough information about that person?
A: Maybe .. that info should be available through the org…
Q: Maybe restrict the info only to the boss who can access the information about the employee?
A: Vague  aaahhh…….
Q: Who wants to type in all that high level info into you Palm Pilot?

Jim Whitehead: What is the experience with hierarchies in LDAP?
Bob Morgan: No particular hierarchies, more linkages. Even for things like maintaining information about a router .. there is a representation problem there .. lots of things, and lots of links expressing the relationships between the things … Referential integrity and all that kind of stuff …