Esther Dyson: What are the U flag issues?

Michael Mealling: Four flags,
IETF space
PDI space
XML space
ISBN space

URN resolution is an iterative process using regular expressions.  The replace function outputs a new domain name.

Two flags are retrieving IP address of server and domain name of the server.  Info that was passed back is more complex than the Domain Name or IP.

Q: ISBN names books that exists on the machine.  What do you name the resource?

Michael Mealling: I don't want to put words into the ISBN - they're writing the docs.  That resource doesn't have t be
on the Internet- not exelctronci either.  Doc specifies the resource. Here is a electronic meta data for it.  Resolve the urn to the url - don't have the transporter for it.  If the ISBN has a database which has a record, name to address resolution will give you a record.  It all depends on how it's setup

Q: You mentioned an authority that is resp for URN.  Is this part of that?  What happens when a URN resembles a trademark?

Michael Mealling: IANA handles that.  IANA makes determination.  The namespace requesting you are not allowed to have.
Short namespace ids like ...  document If you don't want the process you don't ge that.  to get that.  If you want to go throught eh
process .  You can get a number instead.  Public standards process.

Q: That's a preemptive, but when are people butting heads trying to buy out of the process...

Michael Mealling: IANA would know.  A policy issue.  Will not qualify...

Q:  What if RealNames wants to be in the URN namespace?

Michael Mealling: The proposal is urn:rn:yourname. That should guarantee time-stamping.

Larry Masinter: Time-stamp.  Granularity.  Couldn't use rn - country codes.  Reserved set of namespaces.

Carl Hewitt: Where can we get info on this?

Michael Mealling: Go to www.ietf.org for all of the RFC documents on the matter.

Miko (Nico Popp?):  URN requirements..

Michael Mealling: If you wanted a short name, you had to publish in the RFC.

Jim Whitehead: If some company ships something with a URN there seems to be no recourse.  This is susceptable to claim? jumping...

Michael Mealling: That is so if you don't care for resolution.  Resolution says that in order to get into the domain, you
must go through the process.  Never care about the resolution.  It is contained at the top level ... as long as you don't care about
resolution.  Interoperation, resolution says that in order to get to the URN domain, you have to have this approved.

URN.net is a root server that manages rules.  This is where you can set the rules.  Algorithm states that you take the first and sec part before the colon.  Comes back with a reg exp.  First two numbers is country code.  Urn.net is the top place to go.  URI happens at uri.net data resolution, etc..  URN syntax is determined interally.  But it sends to a unique place.  Same concept for URI.

If those two domains registered to networks solutions.  They're in the process of going through the IANA.

Rohit Khare: Registration fees are just like MIME types.

Michael Mealling: That's for the URN - rewrite rule go into the database.  You also have to notify the IANA.
Namespace/id registration.

Miko (Nico Popp?): Expiration.  Is there any intention to do that for the information?

{Ed: Notes become fragmentary at this point.}

Clifford Neuman: {missed}

Rohit Khare: {missed}